shakti’s views and details about PCTIA

As PCTIA is a bureaucratic body, all their energy goes into creating more and more bureaucracy so there is a reason for their existence.

For example: PCTIA has created so many complicated rules and regulations that often their own employees don’t understand or follow. PCTIA had to organize workshops to help career training companies understand how to fill out the endless forms and stay compliant. Then they made these workshops obligatory to attend and charge $100.00 for the first staff person and $50 for every additional person.

So, not only does the small business have to send a poor staff member for a whole day of a boring information that doesn’t make sense, the small business still needs to pay the staff member for a day of work day while the employee is not at work and on top of that they need to pay PCTIA $100.

Throughout each year there are many forms, reports and other non-sense that keep coming from PCTIA that often small businesses, that don’t have huge staff, need to hire someone specially to handle PCTIA’s useless demands. This is a huge burden on a small business in terms of employment money and time. (Not to mention how boring it all is as it is just grinding water so PCTIA can keep generating income for their salaries.)

Do they investigate for quality to ensure students are receiving what they paid for? They cannot do this as they have no clue about yoga. This is why Yoga Alliance exists, they are the ones that ensure schools that are certified by them provide the quality and content students need to receive in the yoga programs.

People are under the impression that PCTIA exists to protect students. This is a false impression. PCTIA cares only about the money they make from the fees charged to the small businesses.

For example:

If a school wants to expand their programs and add new or more courses, or add more hours they need to pay:

  • School has to register every program they plan to offer or that they are offering. Application for registered schools is $250.00 per program.
  • Registered schools have to pay 100.00 if they want to make a change to the program, it is a change of more than 15%. So, if you want to add more hours to your program, let’s say from 60 hours to 80 hours you have to pay $100.00

The above fees keep accumulating as schools keep expanding their programs as they should. These “penalty fees” for improvement can discourage schools from improving their courses for the benefits of the students or if they do improve their courses, they must increase tuition. On the contrary, if PCTIA was really caring for students they would offer bonuses to schools that add and improve their programs ;-) and not add to the schools’ financial burden.

PCTIA declares that they exist to protect students from school bankruptcies and this is why they charge schools for every student that is registered.

We have heard that PCTIA is allowing schools that are in a very poor financial situation to remain open (not yoga ones, but other registered schools). By PCTIA’s own standards some of these schools should be closed down.

PCTIA keeps these schools open so the income they receive from these schools won’t stop. They do it even though it represents a risk to the students.

This is what happens when a government agency does not get any budget from the government and lives on the businesses they regulate. This is a conflict of interest.

Another example:

People think that if a school goes bankrupt, PCTIA will give the students their tuition back. But this is not the case. Most of the students don’t even know about the existence of PCTIA or the Student Training Completion Fund and the procedures that students need to undergo to try to get their money back. PCTIA does not go after the students to make sure they receive their money back. The onus is on the student to go to PCTIA and starts the process. But in the meantime PCTIA charges schools for every student they register.

Late fee – If the school is ever late with the payments, the fee is $500.00.

This is a robbery!!!

Not long ago I was going through the usual accreditation auditing.

I had to pay the below fees:

  • When the school goes through the accreditation review, PCTIA forms a team that comes and visits the schools. For each member of the team, the school has to pay $1,200.00 for the first day and $350.00 for any additional day per person plus lunch!!! Members of an Accreditation Team typically include at least three people: Team Leader, PCTIA Representative and Subject Matter Specialists as required.

I had to pay $1,200 per person a day!!!! Plus lunch! How dare they demand I buy them lunch while charging $1,200 a day per person? The team members didn’t even move from their chair, and all they did was flip through a huge binder of bylaws, going from section to section as if they are dealing with the creation of the universe. What a waste of money! $1,200 is the same amount of money Prana college gives to students as a grant for those that cannot afford to pay for courses.

In addition, PCTIA’s communication with small business is based on intimidation, fear, and threats. This is how the system intimated the people and this is why often the people are afraid to question the system.

More of PCTIA’s fees are available below.

Thanks Shakti Mhi

i) Registration application fee (When the school registers for the first time, if it has only one location – main location – the fee is $2,000.00. If there is more than one location, fee for each of those locations is $1,000.00)
Main campus

2,000.00

Branch campus

1,000.00

ii) Initial contribution to the Student Training Completion Fund (This fund is supposed to serve students if ever the institution gets closed)

2,000.00

ii) Accreditation application fee (If the school wants to become accredited, there is again a fee that needs to be paid $2,000.00 for the main location. If the school has more than one location, the school needs to pay $1,000.00 for each of those)
Main campus

2,500.00

Branch campus

1,000.00

iii) Registration workshop fee (PCTIA organizes workshops to help people understand how to fill out the forms and stay compliant. It is obligatory to attend the workshops. If only one school representative is coming to the workshops it is $100.00. For every additional person it is $50.00)
Institution’s initial participant 100.00
Each additional participant from institution in same workshop 50.00
iv) Accreditation workshop fee (If the school wants to get Accredited, they MUST attend accreditation workshop. One representative pays $100.00 every additional one pays $50.00)
Institution’s initial participant 100.00
Each additional participant from institution in same workshop 50.00
v) New registered career program application fee – School has to register every program they plan to offer or that they are offering. Application for registered schools is $250.00 per program.
vi) New accredited career program application fee – If the school wants to offer new program and the school is accredited the fee is $500.00
vii) Substantive registered career program modification fee – Registered schools have to pay 100.00 if they want to make a change to the program, it is a change of more than 15%. So, if you want to add more hours to your program, let’s say from 60 hours to 80 hours you have to pay $100.00
viii) Substantive accredited career program modification fee – Accredited schools have to pay 200.00 if they want to make a change to the program, it is a change of more than 15%. So, if you want to add more hours to your program, let’s say from 60 hours to 80 hours you have to pay $200.00
ix) New registered short?duration program application fee – Even if the school is offering programs that are shorter than 40 hours in duration and less than $1000 in tuition, the school has to register those programs. So, if someone is offering a workshop, they have to register those workshops as short-duration programs. Each application is $100,00
x) New accredited short?duration program application fee – If the school is accredited and offers workshops, all of the workshops have to be registered, regardless of the duration or the tuition amount. The price for that is $200.00 per program
xi) Application for a change of location of a main or branch campus – If the school decides to move the fee is $500.00
xii) Application for a change of name – If the school wants to change its name, whether operating or legal, the fee is $250.00
xiii) Application for a change of ownership – If the owner of the school is changed, even if only one of the partners leave and the other remains, the fee is $1,000.00
xiv) Initial fee for 5-Year Review of Accreditation – Every 5 years, accredited institutions have to submit a report to PCTIA. The fee that accompanies the report is $1,000.00
xv) Late fee – If the school is ever late with the payments, the fee is $500.00
xvi) When the school goes through the accreditation review, PCTIA forms a team that comes and visits the schools. For each member of the team, the school has to pay $1,200.00 for the first day and $350.00 for any additional day per person plus lunch!!! Members of an Accreditation Team typically include at least three people: Team Leader, PCTIA Representative and Subject Matter Specialists as required.

Monthly fees to PCTIA and the STCF:

1. Fixed Annual Fee

Fixed annual fees are based on an institution’s previous fiscal year’s total tuition revenue received. Institutions will pay one-twelfth (1/12) of the fixed annual fee to PCTIA each month.

INSTITUTION REVENUE RECEIVED FIXED ANNUAL FEE

Over $10,000,000 ……………………………….$15,300.00

$7,500,000 to $10,000,000…………………….$13,200.00

$5,000,000 to $ 7,499,999……………………..$11,100.00

$2,500,000 to $ 4,999,999……………………..$9,000.00

$1,000,000 to $ 2,499,999……………………..$6,900.00

$ 700,000 to $ 999,999…………………………$4,800.00

$ 350,000 to $ 699,999…………………………$3,600.00

$ 100,000 to $ 349,999…………………………$2,400.00

$ 50,000 to $ 99,999……………………………$1,800.00

$ 25,000 to $ 49,999……………………………$1,200.00*

Under $ 25,000…………………………………..$ 600.00

* Minimum fixed annual fee for a newly registered institution. Annual adjustments of the fixed annual fee will be made 8 months following the end of an institution’s fiscal year and will remain in effect for a 12-month period.

2) PCTIA % of tuition fee

PCTIA % of tuition fee is a percentage rate applied to an institution’s tuition revenue received in the previous month. The percentage rate structure is established by the Board annually.

3) STCF % of tuition contribution

STCF % of tuition contribution is a percentage rate applied to an institution’s tuition revenue received in the previous month. The percentage rate structure is set out in the PCTIA Regulations.

The PCTIA and STCF percentage rates are as follows:

Percentage Rate Description PCTIA Rate* STCF Rate
1. Probationary:- Institutions that have been registered less than 2 years- Registered or accredited institutions not in “good standing”**- Registered institutions whose accreditation has been cancelled by PCTIA in the previous 2 years 1.03 % 1.00 %
2. Registered Institutions:-In “good standing” for 2 years

- In “good standing” for 5 years

.53 %

.53 %

.75 %

.50 %

3. Accredited Institutions:- In “good standing” for 2 years

- In “good standing” for 5 years

.28 %

.28 %

.50 %

.40 %

2 Responses to “shakti’s views and details about PCTIA”

  1. Andorlie Raney

    This business (PCTIA) is a Company set up to make a profit off its clients. If a Yoga school signed their contract they are held to that contract. In the end when the fees or other regulations become too onerous, or for some reason doesn’t make sense … that is when you find out it is impossible to retract … no way out. It is unfortunate, but buyer beware is most apparent here. Many schools have bought into the PCTIA’s mandate for their own reasons and now must pay the price. This business is absolutely unnecessary but as with any ‘reality’ … if two or more agree; it becomes!
    I just heard about PCTIA and am very upset that my school Prana Yoga College is under siege … we need to band together to rid the yoga industry of any regulatory body other than the Canadian Yoga Alliance. Yogis unite – Become one voice!

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  2. shakti mhi

    Please let me correct you about the above statement ;-) .

    No yoga school signed a contract with PCTIA from their own free will. When I started teaching in Vancouver, many years ago PCTIA of that time sent me a “love” letter telling me that they found through Georgia Strait that I train teachers and I have a $20,000, fine as I didn’t register with them.

    Now the penalties have changed, I just heard that a beautiful yoga center I know received a $100,000 fine penalty letter for not being registered with PCTIA.

    So yes, there is a contract with PCTIA, but it is a one way contract – it is an imposed contract where the school has no right to end it.

    Love Shakti

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